Should Women be Pastors/Elders According to the Bible?

In a social climate of complete equality in all things, the Biblical teaching of only allowing men to be pastors and elders is not popular. Many feminist organizations denounce this position as antiquated (old fashioned) and chauvinistic. In addition, many Christian churches have adopted the “politically correct” social standard and have allowed women pastors and elders in the church. But the question remains, is this Biblical?

The Bible’s answer to this question is, “No, women are not to be pastors and elders.”  Many may not like that answer; but it is, I believe, an accurate representation of the Biblical standard.  

First of all, women are under-appreciated and under-utilized in the church.  There are many gifted women who might very well do a better job at preaching and teaching than many men. However, it isn’t gifting that is the issue; it is God’s order and calling. 

What does the Bible say?

We cannot come to God’s Word with a social agenda and make it fit our wants.  Instead, we must change and adapt to what it says.

In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth, the garden of Eden, and Adam and Eve. He put Adam in the garden and gave him the authority to name all the animals. Afterwards, God made Eve as a helper to Adam.

This is an important concept because Paul refers to the order of creation in his epistle to Timothy when he discusses the relationship between men and women in the church context.  Let’s take a look.


“But I do not allow a woman to teach or exercise authority over a man, but remain quiet.  For it was Adam who was first created, and then Eve.  And it was not Adam who was deceived, but the woman being quite deceived, fell into transgression”

1 Timothy 2:12-14

This passage has several interesting areas of discussion, but for our purpose we will focus on authority.  At the very least, there is an authority structure set up by God.  The woman is not to have authority over the man in the church, but this does not extend to the political/economic world.  In the Old Testament, Deborah was a judge in Israel over men.  Also, in the New Testament, Phoebe played an important role in the church at Cenchrea (Romans 16). There is no doubt that women supported Paul in many areas and were great helpers in the church


“‘In the last days, God says,
    I will pour out my Spirit on all people.
Your sons and daughters will prophesy,
    your young men will see visions,
    your old men will dream dreams.
Acts 2:17


Meanwhile a Jew named Apollos, a native of Alexandria, came to Ephesus. He was a learned man, with a thorough knowledge of the Scriptures. He had been instructed in the way of the Lord, and he spoke with great fervor
and taught about Jesus accurately, though he knew only the baptism of John. He began to speak boldly in the synagogue. When Priscilla and Aquila heard him, they invited him to their home and explained to him the way of God more adequately.
Acts 18:24-26



Leaving the next day, we reached Caesarea and stayed at the house of Philip the evangelist, one of the Seven. He had four unmarried daughters who prophesied.
Acts 21:8-9


But what Paul is speaking of in
1 Tim. 2 is the relationship between men and women in the church structure, not in a social or political context.

When we look further at Paul’s teachings, we see that the bishop/overseer is to be the husband of one wife (1 Tim. 3:2), who manages his household well, and has a good reputation (1 Tim. 3:4-5, 7). Deacons must be “men of dignity” (1 Tim. 3:8).  Paul then speaks of women in verse 11 and their obligation to receive instruction.  Then in verse 12, Paul says “Let deacons be husbands of one wife . . . ”  Again, in Titus 1:5-7, Paul says, “For this reason I left you in Crete, that you might set in order what remains, and appoint elders in every city as I directed you, namely, if any man be above reproach, the husband of one wife, having children who believe, not accused of dissipation or rebellion.  For the overseer must be above reproach as God’s steward . . . ”  Notice that Paul interchanges the word ‘elder’ and ‘overseer.’  

In each case, the one who is an elder, deacon, bishop, or overseer is instructed to be male (See article There were deaconesses, so there can be female elders and pastors).  He is the husband of one wife, responsible, able to “exhort in sound doctrine and to refute those who contradict” (Titus 1:9).  We see no command for the overseers to be women.

On the contrary, women are told to be “dignified, not malicious gossips, but temperate, faithful in all things” (1 Tim. 3:11). Why is it that it is the men who are singled out as the overseers?  It is because of the created order of God that Paul references (Gen. 1-2; 1 Tim. 2:12-14). This is not merely a social custom that was confined to ancient Israel.

Additionally, in the over 700 mentions of priests in the Old Testament every single one was a male. There is not one instance of a female priest.  This is significant because priests were ordained by God to hold a very important office of ministering the sacrifices.  This was not the job of women. Therefore, from what I see in Genesis 1-2, 1 Timothy 2, and Titus 1, the normal and proper person to hold the office of elder/pastor is to be a man.

What About Galatians 3:28?

 


“There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free man, there is neither male nor female; for you are all one in Christ Jesus”
Galatians 3:28

This verse is often used to support the idea that women can hold the offices of elder and pastor because there is neither male nor female in Christ. The argument states that if we are all equal, then women can be pastors.

Unfortunately, those who use this verse this way have failed to read the context.  Verse 23 talks about being under the Law “before faith came” and how we are brought closer to Jesus and have become sons of God by faith.  We are no longer under law, but grace and we are “Abraham’s offspring, heirs according to the promise” (v. 29).

The point of this passage is that we are all saved by God’s grace according to the promise of God and that it doesn’t matter who you are–Jew, Greek, slave, free, male, or female. All are saved the same way–by grace. In that sense, there is neither male nor female.

This verse is not talking about church structure.  It is talking about salvation “in Christ.”  It cannot be used to support women as pastors because that isn’t what it is talking about. Instead, to find out about church structure and leadership, you need to go to those passages that talk about it: 1 Timothy 2 and Titus 1.

Being a Pastor or Elder is to be in Authority

 

God is a God of order and balance.  He has established order within the family:

“I will make your pains in childbearing very severe;
    with painful labor you will give birth to children.
Your desire will be for your husband,
    and he will rule over you.”
Genesis 3:16


But I want you to realize that the head of every man is Christ, and the head of the woman is man,
and the head of Christ is God.
1 Corinthians 11:3

Wives, submit yourselves to your own husbands as you do to the Lord. For the husband is the head of the wife as Christ is the head of the church, his body, of which he is the Savior.
Ephesians 5:22-23


Wives, submit yourselves to your husbands, as is fitting in the Lord.
Husbands, love your wives and do not be harsh with them.
Children, obey your parents in everything, for this pleases the Lord.
Fathers,
do not embitter your children, or they will become discouraged.
Colossians 3:18-21

and the church

A woman should learn in quietness and full submission. I do not permit a woman to teach or to assume authority over a man; she must be quiet. For Adam was formed first, then Eve. And Adam was not the one deceived; it was the woman who was deceived and became a sinner.
1 Timothy 2:11-14

For man did not come from woman, but woman from man; neither was man created for woman, but woman for man.
1 Corinthians 11:8-9

Even within the Trinity, there is an order–a hierarchy.  The Father sent the Son (John 6:38), and both the Father and the Son sent the Holy Spirit (John 14:26; 15:26).  Jesus said, “For I have come down from heaven, not to do My own will, but the will of Him who sent Me” (John 6:38). It is clear that God is a God of order and structure.

In creation, God made Adam first and then Eve to be his helper.  This is the order of creation.  It is this order that Paul mentions in 1 Tim. 2:11-14 when speaking of authority.  Being a pastor or an elder is to be in the place of authority. Therefore, within the church, for a woman to be a pastor or elder, she would be in authority of men in the church which contradicts what Paul says in 1 Tim. 2:11-14.

 

But Doesn’t This Teaching Belittle Women?

No, male leadership does not belittle women. Jesus was given His authority by God the Father (Matt. 28:18). He was sent by God (John 6:38). He said that the Father was greater than He (John 14:28).  Did this belittle Jesus?  Of course not.  Women are of great value in the church and need to be used more and more according to the gifts given them.

Does the wife’s submission to the husband mean that she is less than the husband, less important, or belittled?  Again, not at all.  Not having a place of leadership in the church does not mean a woman is less of a person, less important to God, or inferior.  All are equal before God whether Jew, Gentile, free, slave, male, or female.  But in the church, God has set up an order in the same way He set one up in the family.  The chain of command is Jesus, the man, the wife, and the children.


What About Women Who Say They are Called By God to Be Pastors?



There are women pastors in the world who love their congregations and have stated that they are called by God to be pastors.  Of course, I cannot agree with this considering the previous analysis of the Biblical position.  Instead, I believe they have usurped the position of men and gone against the norm of Scriptural revelation.  Additionally, those who state that they are called by God because of the great job they are doing and the gifting they have received are basing their theology upon experience and not Scripture.

The issue is simple: are they submitting to the Word of God, or are they making the Word of God subordinate to their desires?


What About a Missionary Woman Who Establishes a Church?



Scripture establishes the norm.  As Christians, we apply what we learn from the Word to the situations at hand.  So, what about the situation where a woman missionary has converted a group of people, say in the jungle somewhere, and she has established a church? In that church, she is then functioning as a pastor and teacher having authority over men in the church.  Should she not do this?

First of all, she should not be out there alone.  She should be with her husband or, at the very least, under the oversight of a church body in the presence of other women and men. Missionary work is not a lone endeavor to be handled by single women. There are no instances in the Bible of single women missionaries.

Second, if in some highly unusual set of circumstances there is a woman in a lone situation, it is far more important that the Word of God be preached and the Gospel of salvation go forth to the lost than not.  Whether it be male or female, let the Gospel be spoken.  However, I would say that as soon as there is/are males mature enough to handle eldership, that she should then establish the proper order of the church as revealed in Scripture, and thereby show her submission to it.

Does this also mean that women shouldn’t wear jewelry?

 

“Likewise, I want women to adorn themselves with proper clothing, modestly and discreetly, not with braided hair and gold or pearls or costly garments; but rather by means of good works, as befits women making a claim to godliness. Let a woman quietly receive instruction with entire submissiveness. But I do not allow a woman to teach or exercise authority over a man, but to remain quiet. For it was Adam who was first created, and then Eve”
1 Timothy 2:9-13

Some argue that if we are to forbid women to be elders, then the context of

1 Tim. 2:9-13 demands that we require women to not have braided hair, wear gold, or have costly garments.   Since no one wants to put that sort of a demand on a woman (since it is cultural), then why should we also demand that they not be elders since it would logically follow that it was also a culturally based admonition?

The problem here is multifaceted.  First, the objection ignores what the Scriptures plainly teach about the elder being the husband of one wife. Second, it fails to address the real issue of Biblical headship residing in the male.  Third, it fails to properly exegete the Scripture in question.

In 1 Tim. 2:9-13 Paul tells us that women should be modestly dressed.  He uses the example of the then present-day adornment as an example of what not to do.  This is a culturally-based assessment by Paul.  Notice that Paul emphasizes good works and godliness as a qualifier (as does Peter, see 1 Pet. 3:2).  This is not a doctrinal statement tied to anything other than being a godly woman in appearance as well as attitude.

In verse 11, Paul says that a woman should quietly receive instruction. Please note that the word, heµsychia, translated ‘quietness’ in 1 Timothy 2:11 and “silent” in verse 12, does not mean complete silence or not talking.  It is clearly used elsewhere (Acts 22:2; 2 Thes. 3:12) to mean ‘settled down, undisturbed, not unruly.” A different word (sigaoµ)  means ‘to be silent, to say nothing’ (cf. Luke 18:39; 1 Cor. 14:34).’

Paul is advocating orderliness, not absolute silence, in this verse.

Then in verses 12-13, Paul says, “But I do not allow a woman to teach or exercise authority over a man, but to remain quiet. For it was Adam who was first created, and then Eve.” Notice that Paul directly relates the authority issue with the created order. He does not do this with the woman’s dress code. Therefore, the dress code is cultural while the authority issue is doctrinal since the latter is tied to the creation order and the dress code issues are not.

Conclusion


God’s Word clearly tells us that the elder is to be the husband of one wife. A woman cannot qualify for this position by virtue of her being female. Whether anyone likes it or not is irrelevant to the fact that this is what the Bible teaches.

One of the greatest disservices that we as Christians have done to the world though our practice, is by telling them that the inspired Word of God found in the Bible is completely true and without error, and then living in a way contrary to what it clearly teaches.

May our submission to the authority of Scripture be the greater witness to the truthfulness of God’s Word.

Trust JESUS!

If you seek the Truth, you will love the Word
If you love the Word, you will know the Truth!

 

 

 

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Blessed in the Name of Lord Jesus!

“My soul magnifies the Lord,
and my spirit rejoices in God my Savior,
for he has looked on the humble estate of his servant.

For behold, from now on all generations will call me blessed;
for he who is mighty has done great things for me,

and holy is his name.
And his mercy is for those who fear him

from generation to generation.
He has shown strength with his arm;

he has scattered the proud in the thoughts of their hearts;
he has brought down the mighty from their thrones

and exalted those of humble estate;
he has filled the hungry with good things,

and the rich he has sent away empty.
He has helped his servant Israel,

in remembrance of his mercy,
as he spoke to our fathers,

to Abraham and to his offspring forever.”
Luke 1:46-55

Mary, the mother of Jesus greatly rejoiced at the mere thought that she would be the vessel from which the Blessed Messiah would one day enter the physical world in the form of a child.

She bursts out with praises to her cousin Elizabeth.

How much more reason should believers who are forgiven by the blood shed on the cross and in-filled with the Spirit of the True and Living God find to rejoice?

 

My dear children, for whom I am again in the pains of childbirth until Christ is formed in you…
Galatians 4:19

 

Trust JESUS!

 

Those Who Forget the Past, Are Destined to Repeat it…

Proclamation 97 – Appointing a Day of National Humiliation, Fasting and Prayer – March 30, 1863

by the President of the United States of America

A Proclamation

Whereas the Senate of the Unted States, devoutly recognizing the supreme authority and just government of Almighty God in all the affairs of men and of nations, has by a resolution requested the President to designate and set apart a day for national prayer and humiliation and;

Whereas it is the duty of nations as well as of men to own their dependence upon the overruling power of God, to confess their sins and transgressions in humble sorrow, yet with assured hope that genuine repentance will lead to mercy and pardon, and to recognize the sublime truth, announced in the Holy Scriptures and proven by all history, that those nations only are blessed whose God is the Lord;

And, insomuch as we know that by His divine law nations, like individuals, are subjected to punishments and chastisements in this world, may we not justly fear that the awful calamity of civil war which now desolates the land may be but a punishment inflicted upon us for our presumptuous sins, to the needful end of our national reformation as a whole people? We have been the recipients of the choicest bounties of Heaven; we have been preserved these many years in peace and prosperity; we have grown in numbers, wealth, and power as no other nation has ever grown. But we have forgotten God. We have forgotten the gracious hand which preserved us in peace and multiplied and enriched and strengthened us, and we have vainly imagined, in the deceitfulness of our hearts, that all these blessings were produced by some superior wisdom and virtue of our own. Intoxicated with unbroken success, we have become too self-sufficient to feel the necessity of redeeming and preserving grace, too proud to pray to the God that made us.

It behooves us, then, to humble ourselves before the offended Power, to confess our national sins, and to pray for clemency and forgiveness.

Now, therefore, in compliance with the request, and fully concurring in the views of the Senate, I do by this my proclamation designate and set apart Thursday, the 30th day of April, 1863, as a day of national humiliation, fasting, and prayer. And I do hereby request all the people to abstain on that day from their ordinary secular pursuits, and to unite at their several places of public worship and their respective homes in keeping the day holy to the Lord and devoted to the humble discharge of the religious duties proper to that solemn occasion.

All this being done in sincerity and truth, let us then rest humbly in the hope authorized by the divine teachings that the united cry of the nation will be heard on high and answered with blessings no less than the pardon of our national sins and the restoration of our now divided and suffering country to its former happy condition of unity and peace. In witness whereof I have hereunto set my hand and caused the seal of the United States to be affixed.

Done at the city of Washington, this 30th day of March, A. D. 1863, and of the Independence of the United States the eighty-seventh.

ABRAHAM LINCOLN.

By the President:

WILLIAM H. SEWARD, Secretary of State .

If I were to comment on all the edifying things said in this Proclamation, this email would go on far too long.

I pray that you would read it a few times and meditate on these things.

God bless,

 

Friedrich Schwartz – O Sacred Heart

O sacred Head, now wounded, with grief and shame weighed down,
Now scornfully surrounded with thorns, Thine only crown;
O sacred Head, what glory, what bliss till now was Thine!
Yet, though despised and gory, I joy to call Thee mine.

What Thou, my Lord, hast suffered, was all for sinners’ gain;
Mine, mine was the transgression, but Thine the deadly pain.
Lo, here I fall, my Savior! ’Tis I deserve Thy place;
Look on me with Thy favor, vouchsafe to me Thy grace.

Men mock and taunt and jeer Thee, Thou noble countenance,
Though mighty worlds shall fear Thee and flee before Thy glance.
How art thou pale with anguish, with sore abuse and scorn!
How doth Thy visage languish that once was bright as morn!

Now from Thy cheeks has vanished their color once so fair;
From Thy red lips is banished the splendor that was there.
Grim death, with cruel rigor, hath robbed Thee of Thy life;
Thus Thou hast lost Thy vigor, Thy strength in this sad strife.

My burden in Thy Passion, Lord, Thou hast borne for me,
For it was my transgression which brought this woe on Thee.
I cast me down before Thee, wrath were my rightful lot;
Have mercy, I implore Thee; Redeemer, spurn me not!

What language shall I borrow to thank Thee, dearest friend,
For this Thy dying sorrow, Thy pity without end?
O make me Thine forever, and should I fainting be,
Lord, let me never, never outlive my love to Thee.

My Shepherd, now receive me; my Guardian, own me Thine.
Great blessings Thou didst give me, O source of gifts divine.
Thy lips have often fed me with words of truth and love;
Thy Spirit oft hath led me to heavenly joys above.

Here I will stand beside Thee, from Thee I will not part;
O Savior, do not chide me! When breaks Thy loving heart,
When soul and body languish in death’s cold, cruel grasp,
Then, in Thy deepest anguish, Thee in mine arms I’ll clasp.

The joy can never be spoken, above all joys beside,
When in Thy body broken I thus with safety hide.
O Lord of Life, desiring Thy glory now to see,
Beside Thy cross expiring, I’d breathe my soul to Thee.

My Savior, be Thou near me when death is at my door;
Then let Thy presence cheer me, forsake me nevermore!
When soul and body languish, oh, leave me not alone,
But take away mine anguish by virtue of Thine own!

Be Thou my consolation, my shield when I must die;
Remind me of Thy passion when my last hour draws nigh.
Mine eyes shall then behold Thee, upon Thy cross shall dwell,
My heart by faith enfolds Thee. Who dieth thus dies well.

 

 

What Does the Bible say about Household Salvation?

 

Household salvation is the idea that whole families or households are saved at once. The saving of the entire family is accomplished through the faith of the leader of the family. If the father or the head of the home declares himself to be a Christian, then he presides over a Christian household—the members of his family are Christian by default, based on the decision of their father/husband. According to the concept of household salvation, God saves the entire family unit, not just the individual expressing faith.



A proper understanding of the Bible’s teaching on household salvation must begin with knowing what the Bible teaches about salvation in general. We know that there is only one way of salvation, and that is through faith in Jesus Christ (
Matthew 7:13-14John 6:67-6814:6Acts 4:12Ephesians 2:8). We also know that the command to believe is directed to individuals and the act of believing is a personal action. Thus, salvation can only come to an individual who personally believes in Christ. Believing in Christ is not something that a father can do for a son or daughter. The fact that one member of a family or household believes does not guarantee that the rest will also believe.

Jesus Himself indicates that the gospel often divides families. In 
Matthew 10:34-36 Jesus says, “Do not think that I came to bring peace on earth. I did not come to bring peace but a sword. For I have come to ‘set a man against his father, a daughter against her mother, and a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law’; and a man’s enemies will be those of his own household.” These words completely undermine the concept of household salvation. 

If people are saved as individuals, then how are we to interpret those passages in the Bible that seem to contain a promise of household salvation? How can we reconcile the need for individuals to believe in order to be saved and verses like 
Acts 11:14? In that passage, Cornelius is promised that his household would be saved. First of all, as with any passage of Scripture, we must consider the genre or type of book in which it occurs. In this case it is found in Acts, an historical narrative of actual events. A principle concerning biblical history is that no one event can be automatically assumed to apply in every situation. For example, Samson tore the city gates off of Gaza and carried them up a hill (Judges 16:3), but this doesn’t mean that, if we grow our hair long, we will be able to perform similar feats of strength. In Acts 11, the fact that God promised Cornelius that his whole household would be saved does not mean the same promise applies universally to all households across all time. In other words, Acts 11:14 was a specific promise to a specific person at a specific point in time. We must be careful about interpreting such promises as universal; they should not be separated from their historical settings.

Second, how God fulfilled His promise to Cornelius is important. In 
Acts 10 Cornelius welcomes Peter into his home and says, “We are all here” (Acts 10:33). In other words, Cornelius’ entire household was gathered to hear everything that Peter would preach. All of them heard the gospel, and all of them responded. Everyone in Cornelius’s household believed and was baptized (Acts 11:15-18). This is exactly what God had promised. The household of Cornelius was not saved because Cornelius believed but because they believed.

Another passage that carries the promise of household salvation is 
Acts 16:31. Here the Philippian jailer asks Paul and Silas, “Sirs, what must I do to be saved?” The missionaries respond, “Believe in the Lord Jesus, and you will be saved – you and your household.” Again, this promise is given to a specific individual in a specific context; however, this one contains an additional promise that is clearly universal and spans all time periods and contexts. That promise is not one of household salvation but is entirely consistent with every other verse in the Bible that speaks of salvation. It is the promise that if you believe in the Lord Jesus “you will be saved.”Also, salvation came to the jailer’s household as the result of their hearing the Word of God and individually responding in faith: Paul and Silas “spoke the word of the Lord to him and to all the others in his house” (Acts 16:32). The whole family heard the gospel. They were all saved, just as God had promised, but their salvation was not due to their being a part of the jailer’s household; they were saved because they believed the gospel for themselves.

A third verse in the New Testament that some use to teach household salvation is 
1 Corinthians 7:14: “For the unbelieving husband has been sanctified through his wife, and the unbelieving wife has been sanctified through her believing husband. Otherwise your children would be unclean, but as it is, they are holy.” This verse seems to teach that an unbelieving spouse can be saved on the basis of his or her spouse’s faith in Christ. It also seems to say that their children will be holy before the Lord because one of their parents is saved. But that conclusion would be inconsistent with the overall teaching of Scripture. In this context the word sanctified is not referring to salvation or being made holy before God. Instead, it refers to the sanctity of the marriage relationship itself. Paul taught that Christians should not be “unequally yoked” with unbelievers (2 Corinthians 6:14). The fear of some in the church was that, since they were married to unbelievers, they were living in sin; their marriage was ‘unholy’ and their children from that union were illegitimate. Paul allays their fears: believers who are already married to an unbeliever should remain married as long as the unbeliever consents to stay married. They should not seek a divorce; their marriage relationship is sanctified (holy or set apart in God’s eyes) based upon the faith of the believing spouse. Likewise, the children of their marriage are legitimate in the sight of God.

The fact that 
1 Corinthians 7:14 is not speaking of household salvation is clearly seen in the question Paul asks in 1 Corinthians 7:16: “How do you know, wife, whether you will save your husband? Or, how do you know, husband, whether you will save your wife?” If household salvation were true, then the wife would already be saved (on the basis of the husband’s salvation); Paul would not need to refer to a future time of salvation for her.

The Bible does not promise household salvation. But that does not mean that a godly father or mother does not have a profound spiritual influence on the children in that family. The leader of a household sets the course for the family in many ways, including spiritually. We should earnestly hope, pray, and work for the salvation of our families. There are many times when the God of Abraham also becomes the God of Sarah, and then of Isaac, and then of Jacob. As Charles Spurgeon said, “Though grace does not run in the blood, and regeneration is not of blood nor of birth, yet doth it very frequently . . . happen that God, by means of one of a household, draws the rest to himself. He calls an individual, and then uses him to be a sort of spiritual decoy to bring the rest of the family into the gospel net.”

The sense of immediacy in the sharing of our faith is only realized in acknowledging the short brief breath of our physical existence in light of eternity and the necessity for reconciliation to our God from whom we’ve been estranged.


Trust JESUS!
(as your personal  Savior)
He loves you and gave Himself for you!

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The Mahatma Ghandi Movie (1982)

If Christians could fully grasp some of Mahatma Ghandi’s practical insights on the teachings of Jesus Christ, the power of our witness and testimony to the truth would be unmatched in all the world.

On the other hand, if Mahatma Ghandi could’ve fully grasped the biblical view of the scriptural Jesus Christ – that more than being just a good moral teacher, He was and is the very Son of God, not only would Ghandi have changed the world in the profound way just as he did through the demonstrations of his life, but he could’ve done so for an eternal prize to the glory of the living God!

 

Ghandi (1982)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_SRbHnfYHaI

 

 

Therefore I make known to you that no one speaking by the Spirit of God says, “Jesus is accursed,” and no one can say, “Jesus is Lord,” except by the Holy Spirit
1 Corinthians 12:3

 

Trust JESUS!